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I watend to spend a minute to thank you for this.
By: | Oct 08, 2016 | Report Comment
Deep:Think about a two by two matrix of cnotemms (of course there are likely more than two axes and two states, but just consider this simple picture):One axis has content**. The other has who it favors. So you might have 4 state choices:Attaboy comment favoring AGW: low content, social style remark, usually with some snark or politics mixed in. RC dross Attaboy comment favoring skeptics: same as above but CA dross Reasoned point favoring AGW: essentially cnotemms that are similar to headposts, on RC. RC gem Reasoned point favoring skeptics: same as above, but CA gem .note that length is correlated with the content axis but not exactly the same as thought content. you could have a very tight, but insightful comment or a loquasious dross (although this is really rare there's usually SOME kind of real ideas in even a wordy post).Also that posters engage in both behaviours. for instance Bender and Dhog are both capable of making points, but often just have dross in the form of hands-on-hip challenges.Just pick any long thread on CA or RC and you will see the behavior. Just pick a long thread and label how many are content and how many or gestures. You'll find a lot of gesture posts! (I think you will agree with me that a you go girl or a pure sarcasm analogy is a gesture.) I betcha! I'm not saying it occurs to the same extent. And I don't know which has more. but it certainly occurs a lot on sites of all political persuasions. and why not it's human nature. Now, I eh assert that moderators are more tolerant of gesture posts (or even off topic diversions) from their side, than from the opposite side. And that this has an effect of refinforcing polarizing the discussion. And it's NOT only that they might have a bias. It's that anti-community gestures are GENUINELY MORE DISRUTPIVE than pro-community gestures. An anti-community gesture will roil the water and mess up a thread much mmore than just have one of the hoi polloi yuckyucks on your side chipping in his cnotemms.All of this is kind of a longwinded way of saying I don't know what you should do. I think the issue, though, is much MORE than just that the fellow is a lamebrain (and even though he is on my side, I assert he is a lamebrain), it's that he is on the other side. He really would not screw up your comment threads as much if he were just a numnutz on your own side. Lynn Vincenthaven coming over, is not as disruptive as some Wattsoid. Realio trulio.I know some sites just explicitly say that they will control the commentary to only be friendlies. for instance Democratic Underground (even respectful righties it;s just explicit ) Same thing with ExtremeSkins (no Cowboys fans or really, really strict rules on what a Cowboy fan may say and they're just upfront about it it's a Redskins club.)Maybe as I think about it, what you could do (either explicitly or implicitly it matters little that you promulgate it, more that you figure it out for yourself) is to have a 3 quadrants blog. Exclude the hoi polloi righties? (It;s a simplification, but you ge the concept.) Or maybe just make it 2 quardants. I mean, who do you have other than me, from my side? Of course occasionally you have to gut one of your own team, but then tha's for something like drunkposting or physical challenges of violence or Palin-sex remarks or the like (or am I the only commenter that does stuff like that?)McIntyre justified banning me because I derailed conversations* with cnotemms that roiled the water too much. I actually AGREED with him that this occurred. But I explained the reason above. (I don't know if he understood it.)*I'm not talking about my drunkposting or toughguy routine (my inner Dhog if you will). That's a different issue. just about the debates.**I'm going to confound snark and content. They are separate in principle, but I think in practice are highly anticorrelated.
By: | Oct 23, 2015 | Report Comment
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